Question:
What does the H-U say about marriage?
Dr.
Graves:
Unfortunately . . . I have not, at this time, had sufficiently
available to me the numbers necessary to come by that kind of
information. I just have to wait till I can get more H-U data.
Question:
Do you have any indications?
Dr.
Graves:
I don’t have any indications at this time and I’ve have
learned not to say anything! There is something new in each system . .
. and I’ll wait and see.
Question:
Some of what you said touches on . . .Wee,
you spoke about some of the youths who think they are
revolutionaries but may not be. What about the revolution? Marx, Jesus
– the current revolution in America . . . and you said . . . related
to the various revolutions. A lot of people here might want to see
what these are and how they might relate to the way in which we are
trying to deal with it. Would you elaborate on that?
Dr.
Graves:
We have about 5 basic revolutions occurring in our society
today. You have your B-O/C-P revolution taking place. In many it is
shown in the extreme militancy, highly selfish, destructive, brutally
aggressive militancy that is being shown.
Then you have the revolution, which is taking place where this
kind of highly selfish, egocentric aggressive behavior is changing
into the new and modern form of Puritanism which is
called Black Muslinism – the black muslin is just a modern version
of the puritan just as puritanical
as the puritans ever were. This revolution is taking place in the
movement of C-P to D-Q. We see it very well evidenced in the rather
magnificent work that the black muslin group did in
Attica
prison during
the uprising. If you knew the history of those cats that were in the
controlling group there, the black muslin leaders who kept the calm,
so to speak, on that situation inside, you soon would recognize that
they had been behaving in this C-P system prior to that.
Then you have this revolution that is taking place that is
shown in so many who are simply
throwing off middle class values – D-Q to E-R.
These middle class values, I’m talking about, are the values
of punctuality, hard work, cleanliness and that sort of thing. You
have a great deal of this. I have a very substantial number of them in
the throbs of this in college at this very time.
Then you have the revolution, which is taking place in which
they are throwing off the values of the affluent way of life and going
from the E-R into the F-S system. They are casting aside materialism
and trying to escape into love. This is the love revolution – flower
revolution.
Then you have the revolution that is taking place where people
are beginning to say that the one thing that really has to go in our
society is majority rule because the evidence has
now well accumulated that the majority is always wrong . . . and that
you have to begin to get away from the idea of equality. It is the
revolution against equality in a movement from F-S to G-T that says
there isn’t any evidence in all of science that any two persons were
ever born equal and you’d start getting with it and work on problems
within that point of view.